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Mupen64Plus AE => General Discussion => Topic started by: DJTriforce on April 06, 2012, 09:39:14 PM

Title: Mupen64Plus AE Missing from Play Store Marketplace?
Post by: DJTriforce on April 06, 2012, 09:39:14 PM
I can't seem to find it anywhere. I've searched on the phone, on the web, and even through my previously purchased apps. I was trying to make sure that the "automatic update" was selected so that I would always be current.

By the way, I love what you've done. You are a hero to gamers everywhere!
Title: Re: Mupen64Plus AE Missing from Play Store Marketplace?
Post by: scorpio16v on April 07, 2012, 12:51:03 AM
F**k, what happens ?  :o
Same here on my devices.  >:(
Title: Re: Mupen64Plus AE Missing from Play Store Marketplace?
Post by: Nolanb on April 07, 2012, 12:55:37 AM
I'm having the same problem.
Title: Re: Mupen64Plus AE Missing from Play Store Marketplace?
Post by: trev186 on April 07, 2012, 01:53:00 AM
Well Even Snes9X was removed and excplusalpha follows most the open source rules to a T

Nintendo prolly requested it be taken down and Google complied...

Hopefully Mupen64 can be brought back or Paul continues his development of his projects on a third party app store like Slide me
Title: Re: Mupen64Plus AE Missing from Play Store Marketplace?
Post by: xperia64 on April 07, 2012, 02:30:30 AM
If you think about it, you never really hear about nintendo pulling anything down. I agree with the person in the shoutbox and that another idiotic dev filed a fals dmca claim of some form. N64 Player Pro and N64 D Droid have mch more obvious names. Oh well, paul should tell us soon
Title: Re: Mupen64Plus AE Missing from Play Store Marketplace?
Post by: OurFriendIrony on April 07, 2012, 03:33:06 AM
I can see all versions...? free, donation and xperia
Title: Re: Mupen64Plus AE Missing from Play Store Marketplace?
Post by: Tom.K on April 07, 2012, 03:36:14 AM
I can't see them either... How the hell those apps could be removed if there are still some emulators which are not taken down and yet still getting downloads? It can't be Nintendo if other emulators are still there. I still don't understand how "N64 4 Droid" and others still aren't taken down after 2-3 years!?
Title: Re: Mupen64Plus AE Missing from Play Store Marketplace?
Post by: OurFriendIrony on April 07, 2012, 04:52:34 AM
...I just re-checked and they've disappeared...
Title: Re: Mupen64Plus AE Missing from Play Store Marketplace?
Post by: Paul on April 07, 2012, 07:01:49 AM
Brad Geng has lodged a false DMCA complaint, resulting in Google removing my apps from the Google Play Market.  The text of that complaint:

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AutoDetectedBrowser: Firefox 1
AutoDetectedOS: Intel Macintosh OS X
IIILanguage: zh-Hans
IssueType: lr_dmca
Language: zh-Hans
agree1: checked
agree: checked
companyname:
country_residence: CN
description_of_copyrighted_work: Mupen64plus
dmca_signature: Huaining Geng
dmca_signature_date_day: 30
dmca_signature_date_month: 3
dmca_signature_date_year: 2012
full_name: Huaining Geng
geolocation: CN
hidden_dmca_category: image
hidden_product: androidmarket
location_of_copyrighted_work: http://code.google.com/p/mupen64plus/
represented_copyright_holder: Mupen64plus
url_box_1:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.n64.pro.emulation
url_box_2:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=paulscode.android.mupen64plus.free
url_box_3:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=paulscode.android.mupen64plus
url_box_4:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=paulscode.android.mupen64plus.xperiaplay

What this basically says is that my apps (as well as "N64 Pro Emulator") are illegal copies of Mupen64Plus!  Mupen64Plus is copyrighted by the GNU GPL v2, which clearly allows derived works to be created.  The obvious reason for this was to knock of all competition to his ad revenues he's getting from "N64 Player".  I've sent a counter notification, but I have no idea how long it will take to process.  For anyone interested, here is the text of my counter notification:

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The DMCA complaint sites Mupen64Plus as the copyrighted work.  It links to http://code.google.com/p/mupen64plus/  If you go to that website, you can clearly see under "Code license", that this work is licensed by the GNU GPL v2.  This is a common open-source license which authorizes derived works to be created and distributed following certain terms.  I have abided by all terms of this license.  See http://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl-2.0.html for more details.  Finally, the individual who lodged the DMCA complaint, Brad Geng, has a copy of my work listed on the Google Play Market with advertisements slapped on it.  This is the very work that he is complaining is in violation of the DMCA.  Mr. Geng has it listed as "N64 Player".  Clearly, he lodged this false DMCA complaint to remove my original work that he copied, and to eliminate all competition to his ad revenues. (Please note that the "Add an additional field" script is broken under "Material in Question".  Please refer to the DCMA complaint for all three of my apps that were suspended)

Hopefully committing perjury will be enough to get this prick perma-banned from the Google Play Market.
Title: Re: Mupen64Plus AE Missing from Play Store Marketplace?
Post by: OurFriendIrony on April 07, 2012, 09:03:05 AM
I am starting to sense that the way Google acts with these processes is a heap of steamy shit...
Title: Re: Mupen64Plus AE Missing from Play Store Marketplace?
Post by: paed808 on April 07, 2012, 09:52:31 AM
Paul, your emulator is awesome, I hope this Brad Geng guy gets his arse kicked for what he did!
Title: Re: Mupen64Plus AE Missing from Play Store Marketplace?
Post by: BzArEx on April 08, 2012, 03:52:05 PM
Hello I've bought Your emulator and now I can't redownload it again :( Is it possible to buy Your Mupen64Plus via PayPal? I'll pay for this great software once more time! It's just deserves this :)
Title: Re: Mupen64Plus AE Missing from Play Store Marketplace?
Post by: OurFriendIrony on April 08, 2012, 04:45:18 PM
Hello I've bought Your emulator and now I can't redownload it again :( Is it possible to buy Your Mupen64Plus via PayPal? I'll pay for this great software once more time! It's just deserves this :)

hey, you can download it free from this site, here: http://www.paulscode.com/forum/index.php?topic=96.msg2243#msg2243 (http://www.paulscode.com/forum/index.php?topic=96.msg2243#msg2243)
Title: Re: Mupen64Plus AE Missing from Play Store Marketplace?
Post by: user7 on April 15, 2012, 01:21:19 PM
Hello, I just signed up to let you know that I read about this and complained to google about this BS DMCA, you can do the same here http://support.google.com/googleplay/bin/request.py?hl=en&policy=apps&contact_type=contact_policy

The guy was nice and said he would pass along the info but the more voices the better.

Also, Bomberman64 and Bomberman64 Second Attack has issues, please look into this.
Title: Re: Mupen64Plus AE Missing from Play Store Marketplace?
Post by: jack111 on April 15, 2012, 07:27:21 PM
I have logged into that website and gave my 2 cents worth. Has Google ever brought back an emulator? it seems as if every time an emulator gets kicked off the Play Store/Android Market it disappears for ever. >:(
Title: Re: Mupen64Plus AE Missing from Play Store Marketplace?
Post by: Paul on April 15, 2012, 09:04:00 PM
Currently, the apps are still in "Suspended" mode, so they haven't been completely deleted yet.  I'm hopefull that Google will see reason in this case and unsuspend them.  I suppose I should prepare for the possibility than Google decides to remove them.  Obviously the free version could just be re-listed with a new package name, like Bob did.  I'm not sure about the donation version though, because it would mean folks who already donated would have to pay again, which isn't right.
Title: Re: Mupen64Plus AE Missing from Play Store Marketplace?
Post by: jack111 on April 15, 2012, 10:17:05 PM
Just a suggestion, are you able to setup a paypal account in a re-listed application and have people donate directly from the app in case Google decide its too much work to click the unsuspend button which would mean that people can still donate but use the application for free if they did not want to pay.
Title: Re: Mupen64Plus AE Missing from Play Store Marketplace?
Post by: jack111 on April 18, 2012, 09:36:12 PM
OK maybe not
Title: Re: Mupen64Plus AE Missing from Play Store Marketplace?
Post by: shuy3n on April 19, 2012, 02:23:46 AM
another way could be listing a donation token , I know a few apps back in the day used to do this where they'd list just a simple token on the market for $.99 with a link in the app to it then that link would disappear once it had been bought
Title: Re: Mupen64Plus AE Missing from Play Store Marketplace?
Post by: Tom.K on April 19, 2012, 09:15:24 AM
How about in-app donation?
Title: Re: Mupen64Plus AE Missing from Play Store Marketplace?
Post by: Paul on April 19, 2012, 02:14:29 PM
An in-app one-time $.99 donation option would be my preference, but it enters an grey area of Google's developer agreement (which requires feature purchase to be made through the Play Store.. donating to remove a "nag" option could technically be interpreted as such).  I think shuy3n's idea would be the safest route.  I'll probably do that if Google decides to delete the apps entirely instead of un-suspending them.
Title: Re: Mupen64Plus AE Missing from Play Store Marketplace?
Post by: Paul on April 19, 2012, 04:41:26 PM
I sent Google another email today:

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Good evening, Sir or Ma'am,

Two weeks ago, a false DMCA take-down notice was filed against my apps.  I have filed a counter-claim providing clear evidence that my apps are not in violation of any copyright, and that the individual who filed the take-down notice is not even a representative of the work in question.  My apps are still marked "Suspended" in the Developer Console, and are not showing up in the Play Store.  I'm just checking to see if you have received my DMCA counter claim, and if if so, can you give me an estimate on how long it will take for you to review the counter-claim and un-suspend my apps?

For reference, the package names are:

paulscode.android.mupen64plus
paulscode.android.mupen64plus.free
paulscode.android.mupen64plus.xperiaplay

- Paul

I got the following completely-irrelevant, scripted response..

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Thank you for contacting us regarding your applications' visibility in Google Play. Please note that if you recently published your app or made changes in your Android Developer Console, it will not be instantly reflected on Google Play and may take several hours to update.

If your app no longer appears in Google Play after enabling Copy Protection, please note that our copy protection relies on being able to trust the build of Android that the app is installed on. Therefore, we only show copy-protected apps to known good builds of Android. If a specific port of Android is not a known good build (e.g. some ?Custom ROMs?) or the device is rooted, Google Play will not display copy-protected apps to these devices. If the users switch to an official version of Android, they'll be able to see your application again.

To avoid this issue in the future, we advise disabling copy-protection and using the Licensing Service instead. To learn more, please visit our Help Center here: http://www.google.com/support/androidmarket/developer/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=186113

Also, please remember that results are filtered in Google Play according to many user variables, and some applications might not be visible to specific users or devices. For example, if an application requires a trackball (as specified in the manifest file), then Google Play will not show the app on any device that does not have a trackball.

The manifest file and the device's hardware and features are only part of how applications are filtered ? filtering also depends on the country and carrier, the presence or absence of a SIM card, and other factors. Furthermore, priced applications are only available to users in locations we currently support buyers.

For technical details on Google Play filters and API Levels, please visit:
http://developer.android.com/guide/appendix/market-filters.html
http://developer.android.com/guide/appendix/api-levels.html

If you?ve verified that your application is published and filtering is not likely the problem, please reply directly to this email with any additional details regarding the problem. The IMEI number of a device demonstrating this problem will help us diagnose the issue much faster. Otherwise, please forward the device characteristics, including what Android version it?s running.

We appreciate your assistance and look forward to your reply.

Regards,
The Google Play Team


I've sent the following reply:

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Sir or Ma'am,

Thank you for the scripted response, but it doesn't even come close to addressing my question.  I'm not asking why my apps aren't appearing in the Google Play Store.. I know WHY they aren't appearing.  What I'm asking is if you have received my DMCA counter claim, and if if so, can you give me an estimate on how long it will take for you to review the counter-claim and un-suspend my apps?

For reference, the package names are:

paulscode.android.mupen64plus
paulscode.android.mupen64plus.free
paulscode.android.mupen64plus.xperiaplay

- Paul

To be honest, I don't have much faith that the Google Play Team is actually a "team".  More like a bot.. and not even a good one at that.

Guess I'll be happy as long as it has a line like this in there somewhere:

Code: [Select]
if( System.currentTimeMillis() - timeOfSuspension > 1814400000 )
    unsuspendApp();
;D
Title: Re: Mupen64Plus AE Missing from Play Store Marketplace?
Post by: user7 on May 13, 2012, 02:27:03 AM
Currently, the apps are still in "Suspended" mode, so they haven't been completely deleted yet.  I'm hopefull that Google will see reason in this case and unsuspend them.  I suppose I should prepare for the possibility than Google decides to remove them.  Obviously the free version could just be re-listed with a new package name, like Bob did.  I'm not sure about the donation version though, because it would mean folks who already donated would have to pay again, which isn't right.

I paid for this app. I dont mind repaying HOWEVER that would not solve the underlying issue. The jerkoff would probably post another DMCA. i assume the guy who flagged you is the same guy that made the 5$ emulator. i would REALLY like to see him get DMCA'd since he is not sharing his source code. this is a necessary process to protect open source. fight back instead of just relisting, and DMCA the true perpetrator. i know it may seem as a bit of a crusade at times, but app stores are the software distribution centers of the future so i believe this is a necessary process.