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« Reply #90 on: February 03, 2013, 07:03:17 PM »
There are different models of how you manage your project, I don't see a problem about people asking for updates, unless you have told that it's a secret. We all interested and it's logical that some people ask some questions. There was many questions about donations as well. So I don't see any abuse here. If you follow up this project like me, you know it's story, at least psyman knows why some questions have a place. We all hope that guys will finish it up one day, and wish them success. But stodag logic have a point, and what's important is that we all have opinion but not so much dev/user communication which is sad. That's why I've mention ppsspp earlier and Paul was always open to conversation.

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« Reply #91 on: February 03, 2013, 08:23:16 PM »
There are different models of how you manage your project, I don't see a problem about people asking for updates, unless you have told that it's a secret. We all interested and it's logical that some people ask some questions. There was many questions about donations as well. So I don't see any abuse here. If you follow up this project like me, you know it's story, at least psyman knows why some questions have a place. We all hope that guys will finish it up one day, and wish them success. But stodag logic have a point, and what's important is that we all have opinion but not so much dev/user communication which is sad. That's why I've mention ppsspp earlier and Paul was always open to conversation.

asking questions isnt a problem

however this thread was starting to turn into a thread of nothing but complaints and remarks about psyman


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Re: NullDCe apk
« Reply #92 on: February 12, 2013, 07:31:08 AM »
Wait, am I the only one going to have to say it to Stodag? No one...? Ok here I go...! TROLL!!! Trev bought me right at this point:

"With that said speak for yourself I would like to see hear what they have to say through this thread even if the app is not ready for another 2 years...

I only brought up Project 64 as a comparison...

You search "project 64 on Android" and all you get is that post.

Contrast Nulldc is actually working on the app which is all we can ask

Let's all just keep our 2 cents to ourselves and wait for future updates...if you dont want to hear anything until the app is released then stop checking this thread..."

Though you feel that way you can't speak for everyone here, rendering your arguments null and void. As long as me, Trev and many others before you want updates of this, stop trolling. You sound like a ridiculous fool at the end, lmao:

"Anyway post closed for me, its a pitty it wasnt someone else who answered me perhaps i wouldnt be gettin to the point of argueing @trev you know im right...... I asked exactly what you wanted to deep down, i mean really deep down, deeper still ok ye that one :)"

Then stop coming back! LMAO, is that not too hard? Or are you conflicted and continue to contradict yourself because inside you're waiting for updates just like everyone else, that's why you keep commenting. I know I don't have any power over this forum, but go to some other thread since this is closed to you.

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Re: NullDCe apk
« Reply #93 on: February 12, 2013, 07:48:14 AM »
@Kidam, I agree, we all have opinion. But sadly his opinion is pointless because he constantly contradicts himself by returning here, if he doesn't want to see it, avoid it. There are lots people who avoid teasers, why does he think returning here and telling his opinion of not wanting to see it in a the place where people want to see it. That would be contradicting the function of this thread! That being the case, his statement is his own opinion but a pointless and completely ignored, even Stodag ignores them that's why he returns, at that. Thank you Trev, Psyman, Paul and everyone who made this thread possible and Stodag the moment you respond to my comment you'd already prove my point.
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« Reply #94 on: February 12, 2013, 11:15:54 AM »
I thought I'd share my take on this.  It may not be accurate, but posting anyway  ;D

I expect drk is a bit of a perfectionist when it comes to his work.  From my own experience: it is very difficult to bring yourself to initially release something before all your primary goals have been met.  That may seem simple enough, but the fact is that the solution for one goal inevitably takes you down one rabbit hole after another.  You find yourself spending enormous amounts of time on random elements that seem completely irrelevant, but are ultimately needed to achieve some overarching goal.

It may not be obvious from looking at how open I've been with Mupen64Plus AE, but I actually did something very similar to drk with my earlier project (the SoundSystem library).  I had people breathing down my neck for months waiting for one of the major updates (actually a complete re-write of the library) to be released.  Ultimately when I did release it, it was nearly perfect and every goal I initially set out to accomplish with it was achieved.  The library was immediately picked up by the creator of jPCT to use in his game, and then by the developers of Minecraft.  And of course then all the criticism and speculation about the project being abandoned vanished.

We can't know what drk's goals are or how much free time he has for programming, but I'm confident that he will eventually achieve them.  Progress is being made, and that is all you can expect from someone really.

So that's the development side of things.  As for the updates/ premature announcements/ teasing (or however perceived), this is in large part beyond the developer's control.  Again, this is from my experiences with SoundSystem and Mupen64Plus AE, and might not apply here.  Every popular project and its main developer(s) have a community of followers.  A small portion of those followers find their way into a close-knit circle of friends (particularly if they are heavily involved in testing).  Those followers become fiercely supportive and to a certain extent take personal offense when the project is criticized or misrepresented (even when those criticisms are not entirely wrong).  A good example of this is anytime someone brings up the speed or compatibility of N64oid as a way to criticize Mupen64Plus AE, and the regulars here on the forum immediately pounce :)

I suspect both PsyMan and the person who leaked the app fall into this category.  A supporter who feels personally offended at comments about videos being a scam could easily feel justified in leaking an outdated test version before considering the ramifications.  And then after the leak, of course other supporters are going to feel offended when people start criticizing it.  Those supporters will then feel compelled to demonstrate to folks that it is not an accurate representation of the app's progress.  Whether or not these demonstrations are intended to tease folks, drk can no more be held responsible for comments or announcements made by other people than he can for whoever leaked the app in the first place.
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Re: NullDCe apk
« Reply #95 on: February 12, 2013, 04:22:11 PM »
Omg get real.. Of coutse i want updates otherwise i woulnt be here you idiot, also i never meant to offend anyone as i clearly stated.
Also dont call me a troll hiding behind your android....... Now im lmao @psyman gl i stated before i never meant anything by it ill say it agaib gl. To you who likes to have a pop stop kissin arse. I dont know how it got to this point anyway never mind..sry if i offended anyone.
 that goes for anyone i didnt mean to come across like that my bad.

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« Reply #96 on: February 12, 2013, 09:39:50 PM »
... you idiot, also i never meant to offend anyone ...

You sure have a way with words. :-\   I've seen many of your posts and so I know you're not a troll.  But you sure do type like one.  Please, I would kindly urge you to use a real keyboard before you post again.
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Re: NullDCe apk
« Reply #97 on: February 13, 2013, 08:13:21 AM »
lol yep your right, my bad. I was pissed off though as to why the conversation got that far.

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« Reply #98 on: February 14, 2013, 12:23:55 PM »
ok so this is my opinion.

Personally, i dont know why people are upset about the leak. I think it was really a good thing for the developers. Why? Because people were starting to think it was a SCAM! And for good reason. No release in 2 years, only youtube videos that could have been fake. And what about the donations? Who would have donated anymore?

Now, people can test the apk and see its a real thing, not fake. Maybe it is outdated and not working very well, but at least it is better than nothing! There were no releases before this, people had no proof this was actually real. But now they see its real, and maybe they will start donating even more.

Personally i dont know whats all this secret with this emu. Why hold the release till the last day, and not give people some early alpha versions? It is alpha, or beta, people should understand about that, and if they are bitching about the quality, then fuck them, they are retarded, why care about those people.

For example, look at the psp emu, ppsspp. They released the emulator very early, and there were no games playable, just one or two. But people can test other games, make videos etc. Is this a bad thing? I dont get it.
Again, if people dont understand its alpha or beta, they are just stupid.

PS: I am the one who started this thread and posted the apk. I just found the apk on some other site and wanted to SHARE with all. Peace!

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« Reply #99 on: February 14, 2013, 03:28:12 PM »
When are we actually going to see the finished product as I really want to play
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« Reply #100 on: February 14, 2013, 05:20:56 PM »
ok so this is my opinion.

Personally, i dont know why people are upset about the leak. I think it was really a good thing for the developers. Why? Because people were starting to think it was a SCAM! And for good reason. No release in 2 years, only youtube videos that could have been fake. And what about the donations? Who would have donated anymore?

Now, people can test the apk and see its a real thing, not fake. Maybe it is outdated and not working very well, but at least it is better than nothing! There were no releases before this, people had no proof this was actually real. But now they see its real, and maybe they will start donating even more.

Personally i dont know whats all this secret with this emu. Why hold the release till the last day, and not give people some early alpha versions? It is alpha, or beta, people should understand about that, and if they are bitching about the quality, then fuck them, they are retarded, why care about those people.

For example, look at the psp emu, ppsspp. They released the emulator very early, and there were no games playable, just one or two. But people can test other games, make videos etc. Is this a bad thing? I dont get it.
Again, if people dont understand its alpha or beta, they are just stupid.

PS: I am the one who started this thread and posted the apk. I just found the apk on some other site and wanted to SHARE with all. Peace!

The best reason I can think of for them not releasing incomplete versions is that drk is a perfectionist. Nothing wrong with that. He just wants something to be indefinitely proud of.

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« Reply #101 on: February 15, 2013, 01:16:25 AM »
 I must admit before the leak I wasnt sure that it was real. Even though he is a respected dev, I thought it was not possible, videos just dont do it for me...i want to see it myself working to get the grasp of whats happening a video kind of goes in one eye and out the other.

 And of coarse I would still donate it is coming, he put in so much work to get it in the state in the videos, he'd.be a complete asshat to just keep it.(he isnt)
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« Reply #102 on: February 15, 2013, 04:57:23 AM »
how do you add a joystick to the alpha apk
also i want to start a port of LxDream to android or dolphin gc and wii emu
i do i start a dev team

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« Reply #103 on: February 15, 2013, 05:19:38 AM »
why aren`t they doing public beta testing, or at least telling us
how to put the joystick on the alpha

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« Reply #104 on: February 15, 2013, 03:48:45 PM »
What script typos