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Offline razor84

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« Reply #150 on: June 28, 2013, 04:45:18 AM »
Hi, anyone heard anything new about this emu ?

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« Reply #151 on: June 28, 2013, 08:32:37 AM »
Nope only new info is psymans last post on june 20th. Still a work in progress.

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« Reply #152 on: June 28, 2013, 10:39:39 AM »
oh.. ok thx, can't wait:)

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« Reply #153 on: June 28, 2013, 02:44:19 PM »
Tegra 3 devices are currently bellow the minimum requirements.

This might change using a very efficient software renderer.

The emulator currently works on those devices but the GeForce is not up to the task. The image output is corrupted beyond repair.

Then the video plugin must've been changed. I remember seeing THPS running on a Tegra 2, not Tegra 3, at near full speed on drk's youtube channel. It ran exceptionally well on the first dual core device, apart from some garbage graphics under the skater.
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GPU: ULP GeForce 512 MHz
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Offline PsyMan

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« Reply #154 on: June 28, 2013, 11:02:24 PM »
That build was targeting specifically Tegra 2. It could be patched around single game issues to have it look good.

Unfortunately this approach covers only a single platform (the Tegra 2 in the above case) and a single game (Tony Hawk in the above case).

Too bad that this is not a single game port targeting specific hardware. As a result you're bound to encounter different issues depending on your hardware.

To give an example, if you run a Dreamcast emulator for PC on a Geforce 2, a Geforce 7600, a Radeon 9600 and a Radeon HD 3600 then every single one of them will produce different results, with the newer cards not always performing better than some older ones.

On android it's far worse. The video drivers are worse than on windows. The audio back-end limits you a lot. Image scaling is too expensive, making devices with high resolution screens perform badly, without the developer being able to do something about it.
On devices with different hardware you have different results. Even on the same device you have different results depending on the Android version you run.
You run Android 2? Sound is broken beyond repair. Android 3? Audio is fine but look at those graphical errors. Android 4? Everything sounds and looks fine.. oh look, speed became 3 times slower.

I could go on forever, but hopefully yo get the idea.

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Re: NullDCe apk
« Reply #155 on: June 29, 2013, 06:14:57 AM »
I gotcha now :) thanks for that. Will it ever get released? I know, it's done when it's done but it's hard not to be interested in this, it's a very exciting project. I guess sometimes the journey to the finish is just as fun as reaching the finish itself. I'd love to donate to drk and anyone working on this, if possible.
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GPU: ULP GeForce 512 MHz
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Offline Kidam

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« Reply #156 on: June 30, 2013, 05:07:37 PM »
The donations probably go to a fund that’s just used to buy things for the project rather than being profit for the developers. I guess nulldc wasn't supposed to be open source project, no gpl licence, it's written from the scratch. I just wish guys will finish it one day and release it on play market with a profitable price and we could say thanks buying it.

Speaking about "rich" I would think about fpse success, it's also not an open source project, it also has long story back to windows mobile days and it's also being developed by two guys.
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Re: NullDCe apk
« Reply #157 on: July 04, 2013, 03:40:06 PM »
will this run a decent speed on single core when fully optimised?

Offline PsyMan

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« Reply #158 on: July 05, 2013, 05:21:27 AM »
Hmm... well, if it's a Cortex A15 at 2GHz then yeah, even a single core will be enough. As for A7 and A9, I can't say it will. You never know though.

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« Reply #159 on: July 05, 2013, 06:35:12 AM »
oh ok, thx psyman.. :)

Offline jaikben

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Re: NullDCe apk
« Reply #160 on: July 13, 2013, 06:37:05 AM »
What a scam, look at ppsspp and all the effort developers plus users made in one year. Nulldce had great potential but i dont expect anything. No single video update, no testers on to test with diff. CPU\GPU combo. Good luck to the developer(s)

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« Reply #161 on: July 13, 2013, 03:25:12 PM »
It still does have great potential.. ya can bet your ass theyr puttin effort into this to.
The project was reopened last august after the leak... We need to be patient.. its not gonna happen over night.

Offline OnijJoku

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« Reply #162 on: July 13, 2013, 04:26:51 PM »
I couldn't have put it in better words myself! Besides, calling it a scam is not helping. Just wait it out! Not only that, but if this was a scam, I'd expect Psyman to stop giving updates a long time ago. But appear he didn't, so jumping to such a conclusion seems flawed. (I could be wrong, I'm only human. There are other possibilities...) But me, Stodag and many others are not doubting this project.
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CPU: 1 GHz Scorpion
GPU: Adreno 205 245 MHz
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Re: NullDCe apk
« Reply #163 on: July 13, 2013, 09:00:18 PM »
why comparing a dreamcast emu to a psp emu, they're different consoles so there's emulation difficulty differences and remember the dreamcast will be harder to emulate (and developers aren't releasing this until it's good enough else people will start complaining)
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CPU: 600 Mhz ARMv6 (Overclocked to 748Mhz ondemand governor)
GPU: Qualcomm Adreno 200
RAM: 512 MB
Resolution: 320 x 480
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Offline Kidam

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Re: NullDCe apk
« Reply #164 on: July 14, 2013, 08:25:27 AM »
PsyMan, is development still in progress? If yes who's working on it, is it just you on your own? Are there any closed tests with different devices?