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Re: NullDCe apk
« Reply #120 on: April 10, 2013, 06:46:02 PM »
Dont you need the source code along with the apk to publish an app?

No, you just need to have a unique package name and digital signature.  This can be done without the source code by acquiring the original APK (can use a backup program for that, or with a rooted device if the app is protected), unpacking it (APK format is just ZIP, and can be easily unzipped) decompiling the Java bytecode into .java files with a dex editor, tweaking a few things to make it look a little different (optional), recreating the manifest with a new package name, repackaging the APK (with modified resources and the original native libraries if there are any), and signing with a new digital signature.

Of course it is far easier to copy an app if the source code is available (which is why Mupen64Plus AE has been copied many many more times than N64oid has).
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Re: NullDCe apk
« Reply #121 on: April 10, 2013, 10:31:38 PM »
Here's crazy world news: dolphin, GameCube and wii emulator pre-alpha was released, it's there in a play store. That's what nulldc should have been like, pre-alpha, pre-era-alpha-beta - doesnt matter it's there for community, sure kids might rate it low or some idiots would be trying to copy/sale , but process has started, if Rayan will release donation version (he told somewhere he needed galaxy s4, due to openGl es 3 drivers) I'll be donating, like I've donated to Henrik with his ppsspp gold version and to Paul.
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Re: NullDCe apk
« Reply #122 on: April 11, 2013, 01:13:19 AM »
I don't think the scammers really do a lot of research.  Case in point, you could find copies of Mupen64Plus AE on various pirating sites before I published the free version on Google Play, even though the app was already freely available here.  There is even evidence in the crash reporting system of someone trying to decompile the app (as if they don't realize it is already fully opensource and one of the easiest apps to build). My guess is the folks who are into that sort of thing don't know about NullDCe, and won't until it is officially published on Google Play.

Thanks that makes since. However, I'm confused by their ignorance, how come they don't know that this opensource, weird... Well, that's just one of those things, I guess. Thanks again Paul for the information, and I hope this madness will somehow get controlled.
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Re: NullDCe apk
« Reply #123 on: April 11, 2013, 07:28:09 AM »
... I'm confused by their ignorance, how come they don't know that this opensource, weird...

It never even crosses their mind that an emulator of this quality could be open source ;D  You have to assume they have a get-rich-quick mentality and probably can't comprehend an alternative world view...

There's also language barriers, etc. and I get the feeling that many of the clones are released by people who know just enough about programming to insert ads, change a few icons and text, etc.... Not serious developers.  Definitely not enough skill to address the technical issues facing the real devs in an alpha product.
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Re: NullDCe apk
« Reply #124 on: April 11, 2013, 01:01:32 PM »
... I'm confused by their ignorance, how come they don't know that this opensource, weird...

It never even crosses their mind that an emulator of this quality could be open source ;D  You have to assume they have a get-rich-quick mentality and probably can't comprehend an alternative world view...

There's also language barriers, etc. and I get the feeling that many of the clones are released by people who know just enough about programming to insert ads, change a few icons and text, etc.... Not serious developers.  Definitely not enough skill to address the technical issues facing the real devs in an alpha product.

Ahh... Language barriers could be somewhat responsible for the conflict, you can't build off of something you couldn't understand. Then I could understand that one could get overly eager to make money, to the point that they wouldn't try the most productive/practical alternative for emulation development. For example just provide ads instead of updating the coding to produce efficient gaming. However, I can't blame the users that use ads though... They need some type of financial investment from their project... Thank you for your explanation as well.
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Re: NullDCe apk
« Reply #125 on: April 18, 2013, 03:52:51 PM »
Android needs this emu... please please continue with your good work.. I know its hard to ignore shit heads like me talkin crapp.. once again i appologise.I hope i havnt messed it up for everyone else :( Then again i aint that important :) wrongly worded i know, my bad again sry psyman if your still there.. Hope you read this ignore my post before and dont let it detare you from postin here because of me.... i dont exist lol. im a hair on my dads nutsack.....

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Re: NullDCe apk
« Reply #126 on: April 19, 2013, 08:57:48 PM »
Lmao, dude, there is nothing we can do right now... It's clear that they're not ready to release this emulator yet. It's no ones fault but fate, for the team producing this want to provide us the very best and fear to disappoint/displeasing us. If anything, they want to ensure our satisfaction. If they desire to make this emulator near top at it's performance, so be it... It's all up to them now. The biggest thing I've learned about devs is the fact that they're all individuals. With separate optimizing strategies and different plans of release of when to release it. Since I'm no dev, I have no clue if there is a right or wrong way to do this. I have my preferences, but to be honest, I know for a fact they mean little because they have a huge crowd of gamers to think of. So please don't worry and I hope my comment consoled a little.
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Re: NullDCe apk
« Reply #127 on: April 19, 2013, 11:33:45 PM »
yep thx i agree, i just feel a tad stupid makin that post before then bumlickin lol.. knowones a bigger dreamcast than me ....imo :) so also a tad selfish ie hope i havnt messed it up for myself we all make mistakes :) all i can do is appollogise ( pardon he grammer aha) but yeah thx for the understandin, you could of easily gone on one after my rant but lke i said we all make mistakes... anyhow thx :) We still live in hope ahaha

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Re: NullDCe apk
« Reply #128 on: May 03, 2013, 12:14:48 AM »
Cheer up! I hope this give you at least a little more hope :). It'll be here in no time!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XygiP-Jc0Qw
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Re: NullDCe apk
« Reply #129 on: May 03, 2013, 05:40:24 PM »
That title was a little misleading, he us using the previously leaked version with a different .gdi. Nice music though and I like anything related to nulldce! Is there any news besides this? Anyway im upgrading to a galaxy s4 very soon and am looking foward to testing the leak and fantasize about it

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Re: NullDCe apk
« Reply #130 on: May 04, 2013, 12:06:13 AM »
Sorry for the misunderstanding, I changed the title, however my description says it was the leaked version. Also, about the music, thanks, I try my best. Sadly, I only made this vid in commemoration of this emulator since it's been a while since someone post anything about it. Also, I seen no vid of Evolution being so I decided to make this for that as well.
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Re: NullDCe apk
« Reply #131 on: May 07, 2013, 12:45:36 AM »
My bad, I didnt know the game was called the evolution. It is a lot clearer now though the 1.0 and the evolution threw me off....
Cant wait to see if theres any improvement with a s4 as the code stands, I was gonna go in the att store and asked if they had any since my upgrade is due. But im not sure there even out yet

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« Reply #132 on: May 07, 2013, 01:04:13 AM »
I assume you probably heard of this already, but a dolphin for android is in market. I can't test it since it requires a high end device, Android 4.0 and a OpenGL ES 3.0. (For example, an S4 type specs). So if you ever want to give that a go, check it out. It's at 0.2 right now but it'll definitely get better. (I know this is off subject, but just wanted to let ya know). Also, I see where the confusion was at now, "Evolution" does make it sound like I was making a video of the emulator progressing. I thought the "1.0" threw you off alone because that confused me, I assumed the emu was below that. Hope you enjoy your emulation experience on your S4. Though Dolphin isn't no NullDCe, it's something worth looking into.
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Re: NullDCe apk
« Reply #133 on: May 07, 2013, 02:19:41 PM »
I assume you probably heard of this already, but a dolphin for android is in market. I can't test it since it requires a high end device, Android 4.0 and a OpenGL ES 3.0. (For example, an S4 type specs). So if you ever want to give that a go, check it out. It's at 0.2 right now but it'll definitely get better. (I know this is off subject, but just wanted to let ya know). Also, I see where the confusion was at now, "Evolution" does make it sound like I was making a video of the emulator progressing. I thought the "1.0" threw you off alone because that confused me, I assumed the emu was below that. Hope you enjoy your emulation experience on your S4. Though Dolphin isn't no NullDCe, it's something worth looking into.
You can still use dolphin, but it will be extremely slow because of the opengl version. I just hope they try to put support to 2.0 since little games could run on our devices too.
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Re: NullDCe apk
« Reply #134 on: May 08, 2013, 08:36:38 AM »
Cheers to that my emulation enjoying friend!
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